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he embraced the romney/ryan budget, repeatedly. he cast votes for it. he has embraced ending medicare as we know it. he has a record, they both do, of doing everything they could to ensure that the wealthiest, most fortunate americans have the wind at their backs and can do even better, and have done nothing to help the middle class. >> i find it interesting -- >> look, just because you say the words "middle class" -- sorry, go ahead. >> i find it very interesting that here's paul ryan out there talking about the middle class and now we've got to be concerned about all americans, but he's not stepping up right now saying, in the house, we could take this vote to help 98% of americans and move it forward. >> that's right. >> there's really nothing genuine about it. >> that's right. >> and i think rubio has thrown out middle class 35 times in his speech, because he's taking the available language that has been successful, that worked with the american people when it comes to policy, it's not there. what about the fiscal cliff, congresswoman? where is this
he embraced the romney/ryan budget, repeatedly. he cast votes for it. he has embraced ending medicare as we know it. he has a record, they both do, of doing everything they could to ensure that the wealthiest, most fortunate americans have the wind at their backs and can do even better, and have done nothing to help the middle class. >> i find it interesting -- >> look, just because you say the words "middle class" -- sorry, go ahead. >> i find it very interesting...
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the service worker centers bush by 12 romney by ten. money suburbs kerry won by one and obama by seven. let's break it down further. here are three boom town counties to tell you a little more about them in the swing states. you had wood county, ohio. loudoun county, virginia, hillsboro county, florida. bush won wood county by almost seven points. obama won. these are boom town counties. these are the counties obama completely flipped and won. he didn't win all of these around the country but in these battleground states he certainly did. let's take a look at the monied burbs bush narrowly won in '04. mccomb county, racine county, wisconsin. porter county, indiana. we'll look at here, obama won them all and he won them all sort of swinging it by upwards of 5, 7, 8. this one swinging by 11 points. last place to look, the older and the poorer rural sections, an area where romney did well overall but saw his margin slip. union county, iowa. bush won by seven. obama here. dauphin county, pennsylvania. juneau county, wisconsin. another very
the service worker centers bush by 12 romney by ten. money suburbs kerry won by one and obama by seven. let's break it down further. here are three boom town counties to tell you a little more about them in the swing states. you had wood county, ohio. loudoun county, virginia, hillsboro county, florida. bush won wood county by almost seven points. obama won. these are boom town counties. these are the counties obama completely flipped and won. he didn't win all of these around the country but...
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though interestingly, it didn't work for mitt romney. he said i can raise "x" billion, he said $800 billion, by closing undisclosed loopholes and tax expenditures, but once you get down to the level of specifics and you say, i want to close the charitable deduction, i want to close the mortgage interest deduction, i want to close the state and local deduction, then you awake a lot of o opponents for whom your loophole is their treasured program. that's are not scorable, addible numbers at all and the president is correct to say, look, we've got weeks -- we're weeks out from the fiscal cliff. bring to me a deal we can start negotiating. >> david, karen was saying earlier she feel that is speaker boehner doesn't really have a lot of leverage or room for maneuver. we've all been focused on the president's assertion that the tax rates for the top 2% are going up but that's not the only thing that the president wants to alive is it? because he also wants to prevent these periodic fights over the debt ceiling. he's had enough of that, hasn't h
though interestingly, it didn't work for mitt romney. he said i can raise "x" billion, he said $800 billion, by closing undisclosed loopholes and tax expenditures, but once you get down to the level of specifics and you say, i want to close the charitable deduction, i want to close the mortgage interest deduction, i want to close the state and local deduction, then you awake a lot of o opponents for whom your loophole is their treasured program. that's are not scorable, addible...
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they sound a lot like the arguments that mitt romney was making during the campaign that americans roundly rejected. for them to cling to that rhetoric doesn't make sense. they've had time to make their case and they're losing american people. the president has been very firm from the beginning, he's been very consistent across the board with members of congress, the business community, progressive leaders, you name it, all the different folks he's brought in to talk about this, he's been very consistent. he's not playing a game and i think you got a taste of that yesterday in his remarks to the business roundtable. he's not kidding. he's put some serious things on the table, he's put his plans out there, it's balanced, there's spending, he's willing to make a deal but he is not willing to have any kind of conversation that does not include raising rates and he's unwilling to put raising the debt ceiling in as part of this package and i think he's not going to move from that. >> let's look at the examination that's going into the strategy coming from the white house. rich lowrie calls the
they sound a lot like the arguments that mitt romney was making during the campaign that americans roundly rejected. for them to cling to that rhetoric doesn't make sense. they've had time to make their case and they're losing american people. the president has been very firm from the beginning, he's been very consistent across the board with members of congress, the business community, progressive leaders, you name it, all the different folks he's brought in to talk about this, he's been very...
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morris said that mitt romney would win in a landslide with 325 electoral votes. he also made the prediction that president obama might pull out of the race. >>> a new "washington post"/abc news poll said that hillary clinton would be approved for president obama. and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was intended for counter-terrorism purposes, some of the worst examples, the homeland security department paid for a hog catcher in texas. a fish tank and an underwater robot in a midwest city with no major rivers or lakes nearby. former republican senator allen simpson has a message, use the tools to sign up people for the can kicks back campaign to avoid the fiscal cliff and cut the national debt. the 81-year-old simpson went "gangnam style" to make his point. ♪ >> i have a bum knee. horse, horse. ride the horse. >> senator, thank you for that. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." and
morris said that mitt romney would win in a landslide with 325 electoral votes. he also made the prediction that president obama might pull out of the race. >>> a new "washington post"/abc news poll said that hillary clinton would be approved for president obama. and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was...
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and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not justin bieber. i'm talking about this one. ♪ i am so in love with you >> and he's at it again tonight. after lighting the national christmas tree, he had some
and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not justin bieber. i'm talking about this one. ♪ i am so in love with you >> and he's at it again tonight. after lighting the national christmas tree, he had some
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as you well know, the obama campaign made an early decision to define mitt romney in may and june, coming out of the primary. went right into the states, sort of framing him as a plutocrat who didn't care about the middle class, mitt romney campaign reserved time for the fall, put $20 million into the fall but he was already defined. it ended up being too late. so the lesson is, going forward in 2016, will the real ad war begin in may and june and we're not waiting anymore for post-convention labor day schedule. >> another point, you're exactly right, another point that's important, mitt romney, the primarily took more out of him than people realized in terms of money he wound up having donors maxed out couldn't do anything until he became the nominee. thank you for your time. >>> next, syria readies chemical weapons as the crisis in that country escalates. former u.s. ambassador to nato nicholas burns joins me. >>> plus, hamid karzai's tough message to the united states. the nbc news exclusive with the president of afghanistan next on "andrea mitchell reports." twins. i didn't see them c
as you well know, the obama campaign made an early decision to define mitt romney in may and june, coming out of the primary. went right into the states, sort of framing him as a plutocrat who didn't care about the middle class, mitt romney campaign reserved time for the fall, put $20 million into the fall but he was already defined. it ended up being too late. so the lesson is, going forward in 2016, will the real ad war begin in may and june and we're not waiting anymore for post-convention...
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republicans did very well and in fact governor romney did very well among lower income voters. so it's wrong but we shouldn't be talking that way. we should be talking about all americans and economic opportunity for all americans and trying to achieve that. that's the important thing. >> governor sununu of course has made controversial comments before. let me play for you what he said about president obama after the first presidential debate back in october. >> what people saw last night i think was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is and how he has absolutely no idea how serious the economic problems of the country are. >> john sununu also suggested race was a motivating factor for colin powell to support president obama for president. is there really much of a constituency out there for that, kiki? >> i don't think there is. i think this is one of the problems that the national party is experiencing. there have been other leaders in the party who frankly promote these ignorant points of view. and engage in demeaning and frankly conversatio
republicans did very well and in fact governor romney did very well among lower income voters. so it's wrong but we shouldn't be talking that way. we should be talking about all americans and economic opportunity for all americans and trying to achieve that. that's the important thing. >> governor sununu of course has made controversial comments before. let me play for you what he said about president obama after the first presidential debate back in october. >> what people saw last...
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and romney/thune most recently. my brilliant hillary clint clinton/duvall patrick pick, track record not so great. >> rick santorum bought his own names. i was thinking what fed gingrich/perry 2016. the open marriages the oops moments, the best press release of all time. >> i have to look beyond 2016 because hillary clinton will win in 2016 and then she'll win again in 2020 so i had to look to 2024. when you look that far out you have to really think hard, but i found a brilliant passionate politician who is a winner who cares deeply about politics. he's on the right side of gun control. kornacki2024. kornackster 2024. you have to lock all these down. ji >> i was going to make fun of you but great. >> he has the total recall of every fact ever. >> just don't talk to the bill collectors from a few years ago. >> americans are very forgiving. >> up next, we have to talk, krystal says no matter how seductive, it's time to break with the debt ceiling. ♪ the weather outside is frightful ♪ ♪ but the fire is so deligh
and romney/thune most recently. my brilliant hillary clint clinton/duvall patrick pick, track record not so great. >> rick santorum bought his own names. i was thinking what fed gingrich/perry 2016. the open marriages the oops moments, the best press release of all time. >> i have to look beyond 2016 because hillary clinton will win in 2016 and then she'll win again in 2020 so i had to look to 2024. when you look that far out you have to really think hard, but i found a brilliant...
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having mitt romney or some really rich person behind them being comforted? so the optics are not equally matched. i want to talk about senator jim demint and his resignation. we knew he would leave the senate. this timing surprised people. he said in his resignation, michael, i'm leaving the senate and not living the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. dick army left his conservative group and senator demint making this transition to the think tank. is this another impact of the election? another consequence of the election? >> yeah, i'd love to know what his republican colleagues are saying behind closed doors. from my perch, you know, this is a guy who played a significant role in costing the gop about a half-dozen seats that they otherwise would have won. look at what happened in i understand. look at what happened in delaware where the mindset of senator demint seems to be one of, let's win the battle, even if we're going to lose the war. they've lost
having mitt romney or some really rich person behind them being comforted? so the optics are not equally matched. i want to talk about senator jim demint and his resignation. we knew he would leave the senate. this timing surprised people. he said in his resignation, michael, i'm leaving the senate and not living the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. dick army left his conservative group...